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Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 373	Posted - 2015.09.09 05:52:30 - [1] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Jeez, how the times have changed. T2 CCCs for a newbie(ish) fit? Crickey. Yea theres a lot of that fit that doesn't make sense for missions. But yea if you have good drone skills and T2 pulse then the geddon navy has pretty good raw damage and decent cap but its tight on fitting. Another ship to look at would be the navy apoc. It's faster and has much better application (Range and tracking bonuses) at the cost of cap and damage. It also doesn't require T2 sentries (or heavies I guess) to do well. Regardless if you're going to fly lazors, start getting familiar with the cap booster :P If you have good shield and Caldari BB skills then the nightmare is actually a good mission boat to look at as it's very fast, has an AB bonus, can use tachs and I believe is very cheap atm? Just remember with a shield fit you pulse the shield rep (nice n cheap Pith c-type X-large). Hell if you really want you CAN get a cap stable Nightmare with a ridiculous 528 omni tank, because cap modules are weird. I mean I wouldn't run this myself but it's kinda lulsy. Probably downgrade to a pith large and add a few tracking comps/enhancers instead of the cap modules. Invuls obviously switch out for rat specific hardners [Nightmare, Cap stable] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II 100MN Afterburner II Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 373	Posted - 2015.09.09 12:41:17 - [2] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: For most PvE situations YOU DO NOT NEED CAP STABILITY. Yup. If I were to actually build and run a nightmare I'd do something like this: [Nightmare, New Setup 1] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II 100MN Afterburner II Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Hammerhead II x5 The idea being that I can near perma run the AB, Guns and hardners without the need for the cap booster or NOS while increasing your warp speed to within bearable limits. If you need more cap use NOS when low and if you need even more then the Cap booster comes in. An alternative build would be to rely more on the cap booster by dropping the cap rechargers and heck by that point the CCC serves almost no purpose so drop that as well. Put on two TCs and your choice of rig (Another HVO II or maybe a mobility rig) and then in the lows replace the two TEs with Nanofibres because 11.3 sec align time (without the AB on even) is absolutely stupid. With two Nanos you get same align time as a mach. [Nightmare, New Setup 1] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 100MN Afterburner II Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Hammerhead II x5 Hmmm, might be buying a new toy tonight
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 375	Posted - 2015.09.09 15:29:46 - [3] - Quote elitatwo wrote: Anize Oramara wrote: ...the worst Nightmare fits I have seen so far... Sorry dear but NO. The Nightmare is a very advanced piece of technology and should not be flown by a noob. Thank you for your informative and helpful feedback, I will take your advice to heart and change my fit accordingly, that is if I had so much as an inkling as to what the heck is wrong with it. Though going by the rest of your post I think I'd be better off getting advice from someone else, not that anything you've posted constitutes advice
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 377	Posted - 2015.09.09 16:28:49 - [4] - Quote elitatwo wrote: Anize Oramara wrote: Thank you for your informative and helpful feedback, I will take your advice to heart and change my fit accordingly, that is if I had so much as an inkling as to what the heck is wrong with it. Though going by the rest of your post I think I'd be better off getting advice from someone else, not that anything you've posted constitutes advice You didn't ask for one but posted two random Nightmare fits. Op asked for laser boat PvE fits and considered a paladin but doesn't have marauder skills (but maybe enough money for one). posting nightmare fits isn't exactly random. Might need to skill up Reading Comp to V there. Regardless, going to test the fits out myself to make sure I didn't miss anything obvious
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 377	Posted - 2015.09.09 16:33:35 - [5] - Quote Ah wait a sec, you guys still stuck on the silly cap stable fit I posted a page back? The one I specifically said was nonsensical?
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 377	Posted - 2015.09.10 08:51:44 - [6] - Quote Nightmare is a shield ship. Once you get T2 pulses (and the all mighty scorch) you can fit it a lot (nearly identically really) to a pulse shield fit cap booster PvE Minmatar ship. Maybe a cap mod or two extra just to cover the guns so you don't use cap charges just so you can shoot. Coming from the exact same background as the OP that would be my advice.
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 377	Posted - 2015.09.10 11:25:48 - [7] - Quote lol loot.
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 380	Posted - 2015.09.10 14:54:41 - [8] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: If you're looting your missions you're doing it wrong. In anything but a marauder I agree. It's still marginally competitive to do so in a marauder. Not like blitzing competitive but if you're going to clear missions in a marauder, might as well make use of the tractor bonuses and cargo space. Polarized weapons have really given a good sized boost to marauders imho.
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 388	Posted - 2015.09.13 12:26:33 - [9] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: If you're looting your missions you're doing it wrong. Smash the Supplier, Blockade, Pirate Scarlet, Vengeance, Mordus Headhunters and Assault drops decent loot sometimes and are worth salvaging/looting. Blitzing is a near enough fixed isk/h per mission. It is pretty rare to get good loot drops, especially now but I get the attraction, used to do exploration for isk too, same concept.
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 392	Posted - 2015.09.16 15:07:52 - [10] - Quote Dato Koppla wrote: The Bigpuns wrote: Dato Koppla wrote: Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: hey if it's free it's technically infinite time vs profit ratio :p you have to be in a mission hub that even has pro synergy, bookmark rooms, abandon wrecks, copy bookmarks, contract bookmarks... nope, not worth it. The sheer effort of it! In all seriousness, it takes like a 1-2 minutes extra. Not even. Bookmarking and abandoning is done while you are still running the mission, adding zero time. Contracting the bookmarks takes all of 20 seconds. Totes worth it for an extra ~5mil. Can't even be bothered to work out the isk/hr on that. This is of course assuming you don't mind missioning in the PS hubs, which are some of the busiest and therefore most gank-magnety. That is true but unless you're running some kind of ridiculous bling I doubt you'd get suicide ganked. I ran a Mach with 3x RF Gyros and a dead space shield booster in Lanngisi and never ran into any issues at all. Until the fire nation attacked.

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